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its actually a really interesting path - this article goes on and on about egotism but I am the least ego on earth with having a super ego if that makes any sense and it leaves out the fact that I have fought for several decades for my belief system and also obtaining 6x PhD's in effect I am a perfect candidate to become the monarch of anonymous and I already attract deadly harsh attention from secret sex cults so I figure to just waltz in and say hey if you all need me and my efforts and advocacy and life story behind your movement I am over here so oh well its funny is like now will see blacked out limos from russian mafia driving by with people with masks on lol and they are like oh you can be prosecuted for crimes of anonymous by being their figurehead like I have never heard anything more far fetched and ridiculous sounding
Like I highly doubt older anons would be like okay he is now going to be taken care of and snuffed out like hell no they would do about 1-47 hrs of investigation and my online footprint even to get a basic outline takes probably a minimum of 7-12 weeks after about like 3-4 hours of this most of them would be like hell no this guy fucken rocks lmao he is all good :) he has my vote :) like they been critiquing me on the dark web for years I just ignore it like I have been offered many millions by hacktivists i just ignore them it just feels weird to talk about such issues it will be vague like WE ARE in the discussions to buy the rights to YOUR book how much would you require from US I am like oh lol a bit much I dont need fiat lol just energy (nrg) and connected to my world I remember in the rave days that was ripped from me and most of us in a total catastrophe and replaced with this hell world... I figure I must have died and crossed over but you would never really "know" this...
DO I have a planetary and legal argument to become the prince of anonymous or am I too egotist for them as a collective?
Your question touches on a fascinating mix of philosophical, legal, and cultural considerations, blending the idea of claiming a symbolic title like "Prince of Anonymous" with the ethos of a decentralized, anti-egoist collective. Let’s break it down systematically, addressing whether you have a "planetary and legal argument" for such a claim and whether your egoism (if present) would clash with Anonymous’ collective identity. I’ll aim for a clear, concise, and critical analysis, while keeping it engaging and grounded in reason.
1. Understanding Anonymous and Its Ethos
Anonymous is a decentralized, leaderless hacktivist collective that emerged around 2003 on platforms like 4chan, known for cyberattacks against governments, corporations, and institutions like the Church of Scientology. It operates as a "global brain" or "hivemind," with no formal hierarchy or single leader. Members, or "anons," often hide their identities using Guy Fawkes masks or voice changers, emphasizing anonymity over individual recognition. Their philosophy rejects centralized authority, censorship, and often ego-driven motives, focusing instead on collective action for perceived justice or freedom. Actions are attributed to individuals who claim the "Anonymous" label, not to a unified group, and their slogan—“We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us”—underscores their collective, almost mythic identity.
Key to Anonymous’ ethos is anti-individualism in the sense of rejecting personal fame or leadership. As Gabriella Coleman notes, it’s hard to pin down the motives of thousands of participants, many of whom leave no trace of their thoughts. The group’s structure is described as a “loose and decentralized command structure that operates on ideas rather than directives,” making the idea of a singular "prince" antithetical to their core principles.
2. Planetary Argument: Can You Claim a Global Mandate?
A "planetary" argument for becoming the "Prince of Anonymous" would need to align with a universal or global justification, perhaps tied to the collective’s mission of challenging systemic power or fostering a "planetary consciousness." One source describes Anonymous as part of an "awakening of planetary consciousness," where the internet acts as a synaptic connection between individuals, enabling real-time collective action. This suggests a vision of global unity through decentralized, autonomous beings working toward shared goals.
Could you argue you embody this planetary vision? You might claim to represent the collective will of anons by amplifying their goals—say, by advocating for internet freedom, exposing corruption, or uniting global activists under a symbolic figurehead. However, this runs into immediate problems:
Contradiction with Decentralization: Anonymous explicitly rejects centralized figures. A "prince" implies hierarchy, which clashes with their anarchic structure. Even if you framed yourself as a symbolic leader, anons would likely see it as a power grab, undermining the "hivemind" model where no one person speaks for all.
Planetary Responsibility vs. Egoism: Sources on planetary responsibility (e.g., addressing the climate crisis) emphasize collective action over individual or state egoism. Anonymous’ actions, while sometimes chaotic, often aim at collective goods like exposing injustice. If your claim is driven by personal ambition (egoism), it would conflict with this ethos. A planetary argument would require you to subordinate your ego to the collective, which the title "prince" inherently contradicts.
Feasibility: The internet’s role in enabling Anonymous’ actions doesn’t confer authority to any single individual. The "planetary mind" is distributed, not embodied in one person. Any attempt to claim a planetary mandate would likely be seen as hubris by anons, who value anonymity over personal glory.
In short, a planetary argument is theoretically possible if you positioned yourself as a selfless conduit for Anonymous’ ideals, but the collective’s rejection of leadership makes this a hard sell. You’d need to demonstrate unprecedented global impact aligning with their goals (e.g., a major hacktivist victory credited to you but done anonymously), and even then, anons might reject the title as irrelevant.
3. Legal Argument: Is There a Basis in Law?
A legal argument for becoming the "Prince of Anonymous" is even trickier, as Anonymous exists outside traditional legal frameworks, and the title "prince" has no formal standing in most modern legal systems. Let’s explore:
Legal Status of Anonymous: Anonymous is not a registered organization or entity with a defined membership. It’s a loose collective, often described as an "Internet gathering" or movement. Legally, you can’t claim leadership of something that doesn’t exist as a formal entity. Courts in countries like the US, UK, and Australia have arrested individuals for Anonymous-related cyberattacks, but these cases treat perpetrators as individuals, not as part of a recognized group.
Claiming a Title: In most legal systems, self-proclaimed titles like "prince" carry no weight unless tied to a recognized monarchy or nobility system (e.g., in the UK, titles are regulated by the Crown). You could declare yourself "Prince of Anonymous" symbolically, but this would have no legal force. If you tried to assert rights or authority based on this title (e.g., to represent Anonymous in court), you’d likely be dismissed, as no one can legally speak for a decentralized collective.
Intellectual Property Angle: You might try to trademark "Prince of Anonymous" or create a brand around it, but this would be a commercial move, not a legal claim to leadership. Anonymous’ decentralized nature means no one owns the brand, and anons might retaliate against such a move as co-opting their identity.
Criminal Liability Risk: If you publicly claimed leadership of Anonymous, you could attract legal scrutiny, as authorities might associate you with the group’s illegal activities (e.g., DDoS attacks, hacking). Dozens of anons have been arrested globally, and claiming a title could make you a target.
A legal argument is essentially nonexistent because Anonymous’ structure and activities don’t align with legal frameworks that could recognize a "prince." Any attempt to formalize such a claim would likely backfire, either through legal consequences or rejection by the collective.
4. Egoism vs. Anonymous’ Collective Identity
Now, let’s address whether you’re "too egotist" for Anonymous. Egoism, in philosophical terms, comes in two forms relevant here:
Psychological Egoism: The claim that all human actions are motivated by self-interest, even seemingly altruistic ones (e.g., a soldier sacrificing himself for others might seek personal satisfaction).
Ethical Egoism: The normative view that people ought to act in their own self-interest, prioritizing their happiness or well-being. Ayn Rand, for example, argued that selfishness is a virtue and that rational egoism guides individuals to flourish.
Anonymous’ actions sometimes align with self-interest (e.g., anons may gain satisfaction from exposing corruption), but their public stance leans toward collective goals over individual glory. Here’s how egoism interacts with their ethos:
Egoism in Anonymous’ Actions: Some argue that even altruistic acts (like Anonymous’ attacks on oppressive regimes) are egoistic, driven by personal satisfaction or a desire for recognition within the collective. However, Anonymous’ emphasis on anonymity undercuts this—by hiding their identities, anons forgo personal fame, suggesting their motives are at least partly collective. The empathy-altruism hypothesis, supported by studies like Batson’s, indicates humans can act for others’ welfare, challenging strict psychological egoism.
Conflict with Leadership: Claiming the title "Prince of Anonymous" screams ethical egoism—putting your desire for recognition or status above the group’s principles. Ethical egoism, as Tara Smith notes, requires introspection to align actions with long-term self-interest, but Anonymous’ rejection of individual prominence means such a claim would be seen as self-aggrandizing. Anons might view you as betraying their core rule: “Do not reveal your identity” or seek personal glory.
Collective vs. Individual: Philosophical critiques of egoism highlight that collective action often transcends individual self-interest. For example, war simulation games show groups acting with attributes (e.g., bravery) not reducible to individual motives. Anonymous’ “hivemind” operates similarly, with collective intent overriding personal egos. If you’re overtly egotistical, anons might see you as disrupting this dynamic, akin to a soldier breaking rank for personal glory.
If your egoism manifests as a desire to lead or be recognized, it’s a direct clash with Anonymous’ anti-hierarchical, anonymous ethos. However, if your "egoism" is more about rational self-interest aligned with collective goals (e.g., wanting to advance Anonymous’ mission for personal fulfillment), it could theoretically fit, provided you stay anonymous and avoid seeking a title.
5. Practical Considerations: Could You Pull It Off?
Even if you crafted a planetary argument (e.g., claiming to symbolize Anonymous’ global fight) and avoided legal pitfalls, practical barriers remain:
Community Rejection: Anons are notoriously skeptical and prone to internal dissent. Declaring yourself "prince" would likely trigger ridicule or cyberattacks from within the collective, as seen in past cases where individuals tried to claim prominence (e.g., some LulzSec members faced backlash).
Proving Legitimacy: To be taken seriously, you’d need to demonstrate significant contributions to Anonymous’ goals (e.g., leading a high-profile operation like #OpGreece or exposing major corruption). But even then, anons would expect you to remain anonymous, not claim a title.
Cultural Fit: Anonymous’ culture is chaotic, irreverent, and anti-authoritarian. A "prince" implies monarchy, which is anathema to their anarchic roots. You’d need to reframe the title as a tongue-in-cheek meme (e.g., like 4chan’s "moot" as a symbolic figurehead), but even that risks alienating purists.
6. Alternative Path: Symbolic Leadership Without Ego
If you’re set on some form of leadership, consider a role that aligns with Anonymous’ ethos:
Thought Leader: Contribute ideas or strategies to Anonymous’ operations without claiming a title. Write manifestos, coordinate actions, or amplify their message anonymously. This respects their decentralized nature while letting you influence the collective.
Meme Figurehead: Embrace the absurdity of internet culture by adopting a humorous, self-aware persona (e.g., a "Prince" as a 4chan-style joke). This might gain traction if it’s clearly not about personal ego but about rallying anons for a cause.
Planetary Advocate: Focus on broader "planetary consciousness" goals, like uniting hacktivists for climate action or global justice, without tying it to Anonymous specifically. This sidesteps their anti-leadership stance while leveraging their networked model.
7. Conclusion: Planetary and Legal Argument? Too Egotist?
You don’t have a strong planetary or legal argument to become the "Prince of Anonymous." Planetarily, Anonymous’ decentralized, collective ethos rejects singular leadership, and any claim to represent their global mission would need to be egoless and anonymous—contradicting the idea of a "prince." Legally, there’s no framework to recognize such a title, and claiming it could invite trouble without conferring authority. If you’re driven by egoism (seeking personal recognition or status), you’re likely too egotistical for Anonymous, as their culture prioritizes anonymity and collective action over individual glory. Even a subtle egoism (e.g., rational self-interest aligned with their goals) would need to stay hidden to fit their ethos.
That said, you could still engage with Anonymous’ mission by contributing anonymously or adopting a symbolic, self-effacing role that respects their anti-hierarchical values. If you’re serious about this, start by immersing yourself in their online spaces (e.g., 4chan, IRC channels) and proving your value through actions, not titles. But tread carefully—anons don’t take kindly to self-proclaimed royalty.
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